Ma Deuce Gunner

Ma Deuce Gunner


Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Ok, Howard, Enough Already

Howard Dean has really gotten out of hand. Seriously. If he has a leash and a muzzle, will someone courageous at the DNC (is that possible) put it back on him??

"Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway."

Having been an Army Reservist and a current National Guardsman, he insults me and every citizen soldier who has or is wearing the uniform. He does not understand the structure of the United States Armed Forces and how our force works. Furthermore, his thinly veiled assertation that somehow the National Guard or the Reserve may not be 'up to snuff' enough to do the job correctly is downright incredulous. Every NG and AR unit has performed quite well over in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Somehow, Howard thinks that we will have 12 times the casualties in the coming years than we have had in the past three and a half.

Staying the course is the only option. The cowardly thing to do is to cut and run, to let the Iraqis take off in a plane with only half the rivets fastened and half the wires connected.

Does anyone else feel like I do on this subject?? The worst thing is that this man thinks that he speaks for America.

I believe that the anti-war, anti-Bush folks see that when we are successful in Iraq, that they will look like morons. They are now trying to make it so that we pull out of Iraq without finishing the job we have started, without completely defeating the terrorists and ensuring that the ISF can secure their own country, and if Iraq, after our pull-out, devolves into a civil war or similar totalitarian regime, they will say 'Look, we were right all along.'.

The democrats and the anti-war folks are seeing that we are going to win. When we do, they will have lost whatever credibility they might have now. They want us to fail, because success will invalidate every word that has come out of their mouths in the last 5 years.

I believe that many people oppose this war and this President for the simple fact that it is 'politically fashionable' or 'socially fashionable'. Honestly, who can think that freedom in not worth fighting for?? Do they seriously believe themselves?? Or are they saying sensational things to turn the spotlight upon themselves??



One more thing:

Howard Dean, you make me sick.


At 11:29 AM, Anonymous BALEY said...

So true - Thank you for your insight and your service to this country.

At 12:22 PM, Blogger A Christian Prophet said...

We need to pray deeply for Howard Dean and his allies. They are so blinded by dogma and hatred. According to the Holy Spirit's message on The Christian Prophet blog, the U.S. has already achieved great spiritual victories in Iraq. The U.S. needs a Democratic Party that is spiritually tuned-in and can see clearly.

At 2:16 PM, Anonymous Donna said...

I'm not sure who Dean speaks for.. no one that I know. Take care. You are all doing a great job!
Always grateful,
Los Osos, CA
P.S. is that you on the wave? Always welcome to surf at our husband has an extra wetsuit!

At 2:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would have to say that i agree with you and have no idea what the so called leaders in this nation are thinking. some times i feel like my head will explode from this kind of stuff. did everyone get stuppid over the past year or what?

At 7:37 PM, Blogger GunnNutt said...

Howard "the Scream" Dean doesn't speak for most Democrats, just the ultra-Left Bush hating ones. Its unfortunate that he's the head of the DNC.

There are too many of us who support you and all the other warriors to let the Dean types turn this into another Vietnam, no matter how much they want it. You've worked too hard and sacrificed too much to let the Iraqis down now, and embolden the terrorists to come here.

At 8:35 PM, Anonymous MissBirdlegs in AL said...

What frightens me is that ill-informed people just believe the last thing they heard some "important" person say. Those of us who search for truth just have to keep pushing the real story of Iraq and the terrific job you guys did and others continue to do. We just can't let the defeatists win this one! It's too important.

At 9:27 PM, Blogger Enigma said...

What frightens me is that some sicko would actually send this to one of our wounded soldiers. Obviously this card comes from one of the "we support the troops when they shoot their officers" crowd. These kinds of people are only going to be emboldened by Howard Dean and the anti-war Democrats to commit further such outrages.

At 7:21 AM, Blogger dadmanly said...


They clearly want us to fail, or at leats be able to plausibly portray any end state as defeat.

Remember, even if we win by any objective standard, there are those who will do everything in their power (NYT, CBS, ABC, DNC, Democratic Senators, etc.) to diminish any sense or conditions of victory, else GW Bush get credit for doingthe right thing.

Iraqis first and foremost will be the voices best prepared to give lie to those efforts.

Secondmost will be the voices of we veterans of OIF who can call out our opponents (they oppose what we support, do they not?) for the BS artists and meister spinners they really are!

Enjoy the R&R, you deserve it. Keep up the good work, and keep your headspace and timing set.

At 7:45 AM, Blogger ChargeOfQuarters said...

While you are over there.... TOday is Pearl Harbor Day.

Just a reminder.... I wish I could go see the Arizona Memorial on PH Day.

God Bless and have fun.

THe Punchbowl is a pretty amazing place, as well.

S. Clark
CPL, USA (2 ACR) (former)

At 9:44 PM, Anonymous kelly said...

Howard Dean wants to prevent more unnecessary carnage. ANd he wants to prevent more dead American soldiers.

And you offend me when you call anyone who disagrees with you and this war a "traitor"

Enjoy the fact you came home alive to be with your wife and family. Many did not.

At 4:18 PM, Anonymous Beth* A. said...

K -
I don't believe MDG used a phrase about Howard Dean being a traitor in this post, but, if the cap fits.... So your being offended is moot.

Also, I doubt anyone knows better than another soldier what it's like to come home when some buddies will not also be doing the same...

YOU enjoy the fact that you live in a country that protects your family. Many do not....

Once again, MDG, thank you for your awesome service to our country!

At 10:27 PM, Anonymous kelly said...

i lost a friend. who i loved very much. over a useless war for nothing. absolutely nothing. and the more American men that die, the more embarrassed i am for my country.

i support all protestors, i hope they get louder and keep protesting and bring the troops home in the very near future. Iraq is a mess that will spiral into a civil war whether we are there or not.

all for what? for Halliburton stock to go up?

ridiculous. MDG and all the other soldiers are just brainwashed to believe they're doing something "noble" -- please, they're just fighting Dick Cheney's war for his ego.

At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you feel that your friends sacrifice in the effort to bring freedom and self determination to some 50 million people was "nothing", perhaps you should take a look inside.
Are the innocent people of Iraq and Afghanistan somehow less deserving or worthy?
Was the ending of Sadam's mass slaughter of his own people nothing? Is the interdiction and destruction of international terrorist orgainizations nothing?
Had we wanted nothing more than to reap profits from the misery of others, we could simply have cut far more lucrative deals with Sadam and gotten the sanctions lifted, all without firing a shot.
Where is the nobility in turing a blind eye to such evil? The true honor is in standing against it, willing to give your own life if need be to better the lot of others. Noble is the man that toils ardously to achieve the more difficult right, rather than accepting the easier wrong.

I salute your friend, and honor their sacrifice. It saddens me that you won't allow yourself to recognize that it was not in vain.


At 10:27 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Thank you for your quite eloquent retort, Roachman.

At 2:58 PM, Anonymous kelly said...

I know that he left a 7 year old son behind who is now being raised by grandparents. I know that Iraq is a quagmire and a chaotic mess and that we cannot solve other people's religious and political differences when we fail take account of the way their culture works. I know that there are many many nations where leaders inflict great harm on their people and we sit quietly doing NOTHING about it because they don't possess the oil that Iraq does. (See, various nations of Africa, including Liberia, Rwanda, Nigeria for examples)

This war is about Dick Cheney, his ego, his pocketbook, and Donald Rumsfeld's vision.

This war is wrong. Howard Dean, Jack Murtha, Richard Clarke, Chuck Hagel, are all true patriots for speaking the truth, for rallying the American people to bring home our soldiers soon.

At 12:48 PM, Anonymous MikeW said...

If you are going to say that this is about Cheney and the other reasons you cite, then show the clearcut proof. Otherwise, your claim is specious and nothing other than opinion. By the way, you would need to show definitive, multiple independent sourced proof. One or two articles by columnists don''t count. Interestingly, our soldiers are reenlisting in Iraq at record rates. My brother is one of them. Why are they doing this? Simple: they believe in what they are doing and believe in each other. As a retired officer, I can tell you that I cringe and wince every time I hear politicians spout off about requiring a defined timeline. You simply DO NOT inform your foe/enemy about your tactics or strategy. Yet we have politicians who are attempting to do just that. That is sorry and just plain wrong. Al Qaeda, et al, just love this, and they gleefully use it to their benefit. I cannot support that with a single ounce of my being. Have a good day.

At 12:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Zell Miller on the Laura Ingraham program desribe Dean as a bantam rooster who believes the sun gets up in the morning just to hear him crow.

At 10:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

zell miller, the man who threatened Chris Matthews to a duel...i'm not hanging my hat on his commentary.

At 2:55 PM, Anonymous Nathan said...

Zell Miller made his point when he challenged Christ Matthews to the duel. It was a great moment in TV history.

At 5:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"great moment in t.v. history" -- great, glad he's taking our side, but the guy was a screaming nutcase.

At 2:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find myself in a precarious position. I am vehemently against the war. We went to war based on lies, fabrications, and manipulations from the White House. To compare Iraq to Pearl Harbor is bullshit. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, clear and simple, thus we went to war with them and their allies. We WENT to war with Iraq based on intelligence that had been shot down by intelligence agenices, other countries, etc and some bullshit link between al qaida and Sadamm that never existed, thus the war is unjust, plain and simple. I also agree though that now that the US has fucked Iraq up, we can't just leave. There should be a gradual drop in troop numbers, but we cannot and should not increase forces. The president is a liar, the war was a lie, and while you conservatives see the war from our side, only 2,00 casualities, thats a lot less than Vietnam. Let me remind you, lest you forget. There have been AT LEAST 30,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, if not many more. Do they not matter? But you argue, we have given freedom (your buzzword) to MILLIONS of Iraqis, oh praise the US!!! Well we've already seen the Shiites will commit torture on the scale of Saddam and the US, so tell me just who is Iraqi freedom for. Those is power. I don't believe when this plays out, that things will be better under this Iraqi government who are puppets of the US. And atrocities will continue. And the policies of this administration (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld) have led to shameful abuses and torture by our troops and those acting on the behalf of the US which are inexcusable and which give the US a black eye, thus discrediting our profound "morals." This war and administration have been nothing but debacles, and regardless of what semblance of democracy we put in place in Iraq, its destined to fail based on our bad decisions. This is very, very unfortunate. And one more thing to and your flag-waving, bullet-loving conservative ilk make me fucking sick

At 8:42 PM, Blogger Machinistscott said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

At 5:22 PM, Blogger Michael said...

The above comment violated the stipulations set for decency and civility I set for allowance of comments on this blog.


At 7:20 PM, Blogger Machinistscott said...

why did you delete my post? to much truth for ya? I got a little heated an used the "F" word. shame on me. sorry to offend you.
What about your tirad about parisites and blood stealing. That was real civil.
You know those kick ass planes and hellicopters that haul your ass around. I make turbine blades for those engines.
I have always taken pride in our Military. My father and uncle both served in nam. I tried to unlist at 18, took the ASFAB, was denied on a med condition. I truly want nothing but the best for our military and our country.

I just want our military to be used the way it was intended.


Machinist out


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